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		<title>By: Olen Ahkcre</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Would the real Devastator please stand up?  I only say that cause the one in the movie doesn&#039;t look like it can, LOL!

Man, that picture of Devastator on here is AWESOME! HE should have been in the movie, not that fake they decided to slap the Devastator label on. What a waste, they kill him with one shot from a rail gun. Do you want to know a secret about the rail gun... it sounds cool and all on paper, but it doesn&#039;t work. Even if it was a mile long using super-conducting material it won&#039;t get the velocity of a lead shot propelled using gunpowder. Cruise missiles... nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, would&#039;ve worked, too. I don&#039;t know if the 15-inch (is there 20-inch?) guns on battleship can reach that far in land (I don&#039;t know where the pyramids are located in relation to the sea or the range of the guns) and you would have problems with accuracy.

Why did they call it Revenge of the Fallen? All the other Primes supposedly sacrificed themselves to hide the Matrix of Leadership from him. Like they couldn&#039;t protect it from him or something? They skewer the Fallen for trying to take the Matrix the first time, but for some reason he doesn&#039;t die or they let him live... or he dies and his followers the Decepticons revive him, but that part they don&#039;t show that in the movie. And then... they kill themselves to hide it from him... GOD, the story gets even worse the more I think about it. The Fallen doesn&#039;t take Revenge out on anybody. The whole movie is about him trying to get the Matrix, so he can activate the sun-harvester to power the All-spark, which he doesn&#039;t even have, but he still activates the harvester anyway.

Oh, I get it... he&#039;s taking his revenge out on the humans. He blames the human race for his brothers turning on him. If the humans didn&#039;t exist, his brothers, the Primes, won&#039;t have turned on him for trying to activate the harvester in a star system with a life bearing planet like he agreed to. Why do I have to fill the holes? I think the writers are much more to blame then Michael Bay&#039;s directing.

OH OH, I got an idea... activating the harvester will bring the All-Spark back to him no matter where it is... or he will be able to claim it once Sam dies (might have to rule that out, since he had an opportunity to that when he grabbed the Matrix. He didn&#039;t bother trying to kill Sam, or Optimus Prime when is still weak.) Yes, it does appear I am filling the holes in the movie. Once the Sun is gone the Earth with die and Sam with it, so one way or another he will get the All-Spark back. They do mention that the All-Spark can not be destroyed. The cube containing the All-Spark was only a vessel and now the All-Spark resides in Sam. At least the knowledge portion, he doesn&#039;t exhibit any powers to bring machines or fallen Transformers back to life... as yet. Oh, I suppose he will have to have a hand in bringing the Dinobots back to life in the next movie or something. They don&#039;t mention this in the movie either and I&#039;m just exploring some possibilities.

Transformer is about the robots, please no more Sam saves the Earth, otherwise just change the title to Sam and the robots from Outer Space, so I don&#039;t think it&#039;s about Transformers.

Unless you&#039;re watching the movie for the special effects, don&#039;t bother watching it for a story. The effects are phenomenal and the explosions are excessive. Things blowup even when no one has fired a shot. Roads will just blow up for no reason other than it&#039;s in the shot... camera shot. Yeah, you can blow things up with a camera... but I don&#039;t think they meant that way, LOL!

Another problem with the second movie was they made Prime weaker than Megatron in the first movie... just so they could have Sam save them all. That was so lame, it should&#039;ve had Prime arriving in the nick of time to save Sam and the cube and the Earth... it&#039;s so frustrating when they can&#039;t even be consistent within their own lore.

So they bring Prime&#039;s power-level up to where it would be in the cartoon series and he takes on the top two Decepticons, Megatron, Starscream and Blackout all by himself. The Fallen doesn&#039;t count since he&#039;s just a one time foe. Although, I suppose they could always bring him back... as Galvatron or something... these people don&#039;t hold to the cartoon series. I mean they don&#039;t even hold to their own lore.

Were there any other problems with the movie... oh yeah, why are the soldiers on the front lines... they&#039;re useless. I mean really it doesn&#039;t make any sense to have them that close in combat. This is a fight between the Autobots and the Decepticons. Humans are more in the way than help. Gunships fly in easy arms reach... you could have the Decepticon run up to it and swat it out of the sky if swatting is what you want, you don&#039;t need to have them fly 20 feet from the ground in arms reach. All the Decepticons are killed by Autobots, not by humans... except Devastator... what a waste of a good villain.

And what is it with all the humping... dog humping dog, Wheelie humping Mikaela&#039;s leg... once was too many and they did it twice. What do you call that... trying to be funny without being clever... crass humor... I call it lame.

Optimus&#039; narration at the beginning of the film... Optimus is the epitome of all that is good and noble, but he is fighting a war against the Decepticons and Decepticons are also from Cybertron. To make the comments he does about the human race seems a little hypocritical. 

And the narration for NEST sounds more like a recruiting advertisement.

The scene with the astronomy professor... what the hell was that all about? It was more like Horrible Acting 101.

The opening with the guys wearing white paint... it looks like they found it on the cutting floor of a B-movie. It was so awful, seriously they should take it out. It doesn&#039;t tell you anything relevant you won&#039;t find out during the course of the film.

Sideswipe kills a Decepticon with his blade... with flourish... nothing wrong with that I suppose... then he saids, &quot;D@mn, I&#039;m good!&quot; Which ruined the effect. He comes off sounding pretty arrogant... after killing someone from his own planet. Which just goes to show even Autobots are not that much different from humans.

And the scene when Megatron goes to see the Fallen... My master... yes, my disciple... the exchange will take you back to Star Wars, Darth Vadar and the Emperor . It&#039;s so bad... I have to laugh... unfortunately it&#039;s not suppose to be funny... LOL!

I suppose you could argue the story calls for some of 
it... well, not really... story... there&#039;s a story...?

Is there anything good in it... the scene with the airplane (C-17 Globemaster, I think it is) carrying Prime over the skyline in Shanghai... It looks like a shot you could use for Ghost in the Shell... I thought it was beautiful. 

Prime jumping out of the airplane, it totally kick ass...

Bee kicking ass... Bee learns Kung Fu while living in Sam&#039;s garage... no, they don&#039;t show that, but you might believe it when you see him fight.

Optimus getting Jetfire&#039;s parts and takes the fight to the Fallen and Megatron.

All the robot fight scenes are well-done or great.

The rest of the stuff should be good if not tolerable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Would the real Devastator please stand up?  I only say that cause the one in the movie doesn&#8217;t look like it can, LOL!</p>
<p>Man, that picture of Devastator on here is AWESOME! HE should have been in the movie, not that fake they decided to slap the Devastator label on. What a waste, they kill him with one shot from a rail gun. Do you want to know a secret about the rail gun&#8230; it sounds cool and all on paper, but it doesn&#8217;t work. Even if it was a mile long using super-conducting material it won&#8217;t get the velocity of a lead shot propelled using gunpowder. Cruise missiles&#8230; nuclear-tipped cruise missiles, would&#8217;ve worked, too. I don&#8217;t know if the 15-inch (is there 20-inch?) guns on battleship can reach that far in land (I don&#8217;t know where the pyramids are located in relation to the sea or the range of the guns) and you would have problems with accuracy.</p>
<p>Why did they call it Revenge of the Fallen? All the other Primes supposedly sacrificed themselves to hide the Matrix of Leadership from him. Like they couldn&#8217;t protect it from him or something? They skewer the Fallen for trying to take the Matrix the first time, but for some reason he doesn&#8217;t die or they let him live&#8230; or he dies and his followers the Decepticons revive him, but that part they don&#8217;t show that in the movie. And then&#8230; they kill themselves to hide it from him&#8230; GOD, the story gets even worse the more I think about it. The Fallen doesn&#8217;t take Revenge out on anybody. The whole movie is about him trying to get the Matrix, so he can activate the sun-harvester to power the All-spark, which he doesn&#8217;t even have, but he still activates the harvester anyway.</p>
<p>Oh, I get it&#8230; he&#8217;s taking his revenge out on the humans. He blames the human race for his brothers turning on him. If the humans didn&#8217;t exist, his brothers, the Primes, won&#8217;t have turned on him for trying to activate the harvester in a star system with a life bearing planet like he agreed to. Why do I have to fill the holes? I think the writers are much more to blame then Michael Bay&#8217;s directing.</p>
<p>OH OH, I got an idea&#8230; activating the harvester will bring the All-Spark back to him no matter where it is&#8230; or he will be able to claim it once Sam dies (might have to rule that out, since he had an opportunity to that when he grabbed the Matrix. He didn&#8217;t bother trying to kill Sam, or Optimus Prime when is still weak.) Yes, it does appear I am filling the holes in the movie. Once the Sun is gone the Earth with die and Sam with it, so one way or another he will get the All-Spark back. They do mention that the All-Spark can not be destroyed. The cube containing the All-Spark was only a vessel and now the All-Spark resides in Sam. At least the knowledge portion, he doesn&#8217;t exhibit any powers to bring machines or fallen Transformers back to life&#8230; as yet. Oh, I suppose he will have to have a hand in bringing the Dinobots back to life in the next movie or something. They don&#8217;t mention this in the movie either and I&#8217;m just exploring some possibilities.</p>
<p>Transformer is about the robots, please no more Sam saves the Earth, otherwise just change the title to Sam and the robots from Outer Space, so I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s about Transformers.</p>
<p>Unless you&#8217;re watching the movie for the special effects, don&#8217;t bother watching it for a story. The effects are phenomenal and the explosions are excessive. Things blowup even when no one has fired a shot. Roads will just blow up for no reason other than it&#8217;s in the shot&#8230; camera shot. Yeah, you can blow things up with a camera&#8230; but I don&#8217;t think they meant that way, LOL!</p>
<p>Another problem with the second movie was they made Prime weaker than Megatron in the first movie&#8230; just so they could have Sam save them all. That was so lame, it should&#8217;ve had Prime arriving in the nick of time to save Sam and the cube and the Earth&#8230; it&#8217;s so frustrating when they can&#8217;t even be consistent within their own lore.</p>
<p>So they bring Prime&#8217;s power-level up to where it would be in the cartoon series and he takes on the top two Decepticons, Megatron, Starscream and Blackout all by himself. The Fallen doesn&#8217;t count since he&#8217;s just a one time foe. Although, I suppose they could always bring him back&#8230; as Galvatron or something&#8230; these people don&#8217;t hold to the cartoon series. I mean they don&#8217;t even hold to their own lore.</p>
<p>Were there any other problems with the movie&#8230; oh yeah, why are the soldiers on the front lines&#8230; they&#8217;re useless. I mean really it doesn&#8217;t make any sense to have them that close in combat. This is a fight between the Autobots and the Decepticons. Humans are more in the way than help. Gunships fly in easy arms reach&#8230; you could have the Decepticon run up to it and swat it out of the sky if swatting is what you want, you don&#8217;t need to have them fly 20 feet from the ground in arms reach. All the Decepticons are killed by Autobots, not by humans&#8230; except Devastator&#8230; what a waste of a good villain.</p>
<p>And what is it with all the humping&#8230; dog humping dog, Wheelie humping Mikaela&#8217;s leg&#8230; once was too many and they did it twice. What do you call that&#8230; trying to be funny without being clever&#8230; crass humor&#8230; I call it lame.</p>
<p>Optimus&#8217; narration at the beginning of the film&#8230; Optimus is the epitome of all that is good and noble, but he is fighting a war against the Decepticons and Decepticons are also from Cybertron. To make the comments he does about the human race seems a little hypocritical. </p>
<p>And the narration for NEST sounds more like a recruiting advertisement.</p>
<p>The scene with the astronomy professor&#8230; what the hell was that all about? It was more like Horrible Acting 101.</p>
<p>The opening with the guys wearing white paint&#8230; it looks like they found it on the cutting floor of a B-movie. It was so awful, seriously they should take it out. It doesn&#8217;t tell you anything relevant you won&#8217;t find out during the course of the film.</p>
<p>Sideswipe kills a Decepticon with his blade&#8230; with flourish&#8230; nothing wrong with that I suppose&#8230; then he saids, &#8220;D@mn, I&#8217;m good!&#8221; Which ruined the effect. He comes off sounding pretty arrogant&#8230; after killing someone from his own planet. Which just goes to show even Autobots are not that much different from humans.</p>
<p>And the scene when Megatron goes to see the Fallen&#8230; My master&#8230; yes, my disciple&#8230; the exchange will take you back to Star Wars, Darth Vadar and the Emperor . It&#8217;s so bad&#8230; I have to laugh&#8230; unfortunately it&#8217;s not suppose to be funny&#8230; LOL!</p>
<p>I suppose you could argue the story calls for some of<br />
it&#8230; well, not really&#8230; story&#8230; there&#8217;s a story&#8230;?</p>
<p>Is there anything good in it&#8230; the scene with the airplane (C-17 Globemaster, I think it is) carrying Prime over the skyline in Shanghai&#8230; It looks like a shot you could use for Ghost in the Shell&#8230; I thought it was beautiful. </p>
<p>Prime jumping out of the airplane, it totally kick ass&#8230;</p>
<p>Bee kicking ass&#8230; Bee learns Kung Fu while living in Sam&#8217;s garage&#8230; no, they don&#8217;t show that, but you might believe it when you see him fight.</p>
<p>Optimus getting Jetfire&#8217;s parts and takes the fight to the Fallen and Megatron.</p>
<p>All the robot fight scenes are well-done or great.</p>
<p>The rest of the stuff should be good if not tolerable.</p>
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		<title>By: jack</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 11:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>transformers 2 rocks i must get it on dvd. and sam witwicky is lucky who is kissing the sexsyes girl in the world. she is so pretty. the prettyest i have seenad before</description>
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		<title>By: You</title>
		<link>http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-17943</link>
		<dc:creator>You</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 14:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hope optimus prime kick some serious butt in this sequel!! im a fan and i was getting pump up when he arrive @ the main battle scene but megatron kick his butt... shouldnt of happen hehe =) 

i love the movie eventhough it was different from the cartoon but hey, don&#039;t bagged it out .... yawnable?? fan...yeah right dude!!! dragonball was bad and im a fan of that too, shame, shame!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hope optimus prime kick some serious butt in this sequel!! im a fan and i was getting pump up when he arrive @ the main battle scene but megatron kick his butt&#8230; shouldnt of happen hehe =) </p>
<p>i love the movie eventhough it was different from the cartoon but hey, don&#8217;t bagged it out &#8230;. yawnable?? fan&#8230;yeah right dude!!! dragonball was bad and im a fan of that too, shame, shame!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: RECOIL</title>
		<link>http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=356&#038;cpage=1#comment-16417</link>
		<dc:creator>RECOIL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 18:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont understand how this so called Transformers fans could not catch up with time... Of course the movie has to fit in this genaration... I have almost all tapes and toys from the old transformers; the movie wasn&#039;t like the old one but it sure did hit the mark...

The cast, the visual effects, the camera angles, sound editing, editing, it was one heck of a blockbuster. And im sure this next movie would be as long as Michael Bay sticks to he&#039;s dramatic camera style. 

AUTOBOTS transform for action!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand how this so called Transformers fans could not catch up with time&#8230; Of course the movie has to fit in this genaration&#8230; I have almost all tapes and toys from the old transformers; the movie wasn&#8217;t like the old one but it sure did hit the mark&#8230;</p>
<p>The cast, the visual effects, the camera angles, sound editing, editing, it was one heck of a blockbuster. And im sure this next movie would be as long as Michael Bay sticks to he&#8217;s dramatic camera style. </p>
<p>AUTOBOTS transform for action!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jr Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jr Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cant believe there are haters on Transformers. I think that was one of the best blockbuster movies that came out that year. Special Effects? Unbelievable. Storyline? True, not the complete original, but would you really think today&#039;s audience can connect with a young boy (like 10&#039;ish) going on adventures with alien robots? I think the only thing the movie lacked was the interaction between the Decepticons. Other than that, it had it all and was able to deliver the story without giving too much info for the first movie. it was long enough.

Now, with the sequel, alot that had to be left out in the first movie will hopefully be explained in this one. The combining of transformers, female transformers, and a more detailed story of their history and relation to Earth. And of course, with Michael bay on it.... bigger and better action sequences.

Autobots.... ROLLOUT!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cant believe there are haters on Transformers. I think that was one of the best blockbuster movies that came out that year. Special Effects? Unbelievable. Storyline? True, not the complete original, but would you really think today&#8217;s audience can connect with a young boy (like 10&#8242;ish) going on adventures with alien robots? I think the only thing the movie lacked was the interaction between the Decepticons. Other than that, it had it all and was able to deliver the story without giving too much info for the first movie. it was long enough.</p>
<p>Now, with the sequel, alot that had to be left out in the first movie will hopefully be explained in this one. The combining of transformers, female transformers, and a more detailed story of their history and relation to Earth. And of course, with Michael bay on it&#8230;. bigger and better action sequences.</p>
<p>Autobots&#8230;. ROLLOUT!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: zak</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2009 23:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oooh i see now soundwave he looks like him but he turns into a damn truck what da hell i like the boombox better and his tape spies</description>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol I cant believe how many of you have commented badly on the first one it amazing the visual effects were awesome and the casting was done awesome Shia was awesome and Megan added that sexy look that made every guy rewatch the scene of her looking at the engine.  The 2nd one I hope lives up to the hype and hope is just as bad ass as the first one or better but too shoot it all in only a year, I just dont hope they rush it.  But seriously yawnable lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol I cant believe how many of you have commented badly on the first one it amazing the visual effects were awesome and the casting was done awesome Shia was awesome and Megan added that sexy look that made every guy rewatch the scene of her looking at the engine.  The 2nd one I hope lives up to the hype and hope is just as bad ass as the first one or better but too shoot it all in only a year, I just dont hope they rush it.  But seriously yawnable lol</p>
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		<title>By: xman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 04:34:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loved the first movie, the second will be even better.  I grew up on the transformers and gobots, remember this is Hollywood and the movie was created for all to enjoy not just transformer fans.</description>
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		<title>By: MuuMuu</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Sep 2008 07:34:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrrrrm... I believed the first movie was merely average (IF they had ended it there). The trailers did hype it up but watching it itself was not as exciting as I thought it would be. But of course because there would be a sequel and such, the first movie presented itself well.

I did wish there was a slightly better casting. Megan Fox? Understandable. But Shia? Not so much in my book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrrrrm&#8230; I believed the first movie was merely average (IF they had ended it there). The trailers did hype it up but watching it itself was not as exciting as I thought it would be. But of course because there would be a sequel and such, the first movie presented itself well.</p>
<p>I did wish there was a slightly better casting. Megan Fox? Understandable. But Shia? Not so much in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: Honey 69</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 20:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up with Transformers and I was very excited to see the 1st film and I freakin LOVED IT!!!!! To all of you who were hatin on the first one, you don&#039;t know what you&#039;re talkin about!!! I loved the cast and Shia did a great job. I am looking forward to see the next and I can&#039;t wait!!! To all the haterz, please do me a favor and don&#039;t waste my time reading your yawnable comments... Keep it to your damn boring selves!!!!!! blah blah blah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up with Transformers and I was very excited to see the 1st film and I freakin LOVED IT!!!!! To all of you who were hatin on the first one, you don&#8217;t know what you&#8217;re talkin about!!! I loved the cast and Shia did a great job. I am looking forward to see the next and I can&#8217;t wait!!! To all the haterz, please do me a favor and don&#8217;t waste my time reading your yawnable comments&#8230; Keep it to your damn boring selves!!!!!! blah blah blah</p>
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