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Author Topic: Guy Ritchie's Sherlock Holmes - a leap too far?  (Read 1536 times)
Eilis Mernagh
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« on: June 02, 2009, 08:25:33 AM »

With Guy Ritchie’s Sherlock Holmes due for release in December, fans of the books are already getting hot under the collar. There’s the to-be-expected grumbling about the liberties being taken with the sleuth legend and some are going so far as to say that Sir Arthur C.D. must be turning in his grave .

The advance trailer (see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4K3aM5H5KM) seems to confirm rumours that Ritchie has gone for a sexier, more action-oriented Holmes, with Robert Downey Jnr. sword-fighting, bare-knuckle-brawling and getting up close and personal with Rachel McAdams as Irene Adler. But is this such a leap? I’ve read most of the Holmes stories and it’s got to be said, he’d give some of today’s rock stars a run for their money in terms of his drug use. He’s an enthusiastic cocaine user and occasionally injects morphine as well.

As for weapons training and martial arts, Holmes and Watson both carry canes and pistols, but the guns don’t get much use, only being used seven times in all the stories. Although Watson describes Holmes as an expert with a sword he never actually demonstrates this in the books. However, Holmes is more than willing to use his fists. In The Sign of the Four, Holmes introduces himself to a prize-fighter as:
"The amateur who fought three rounds with you at Alison's rooms on the night of your benefit four years back." McMurdo responds by saying, "Ah, you're one that has wasted your gifts, you have! You might have aimed high, if you had joined the fancy."   

In "The Adventure of the Empty House", Holmes tells Watson how he used martial arts to overcome uber-villain Professor Moriarty at the Reichenbach Falls. He states that "I have some knowledge, however, of baritsu, or the Japanese system of wrestling, which has more than once been very useful to me."

The biggest change Ritchie may be making in terms of Holmes’ character is in relation to the opposite sex. Holmes seems pretty asexual in general and the the only woman he ever show major interest in is Irene Adler. According to Watson, she was referred to on more than one occasion by Holmes as "The Woman". Though she only appears in A Scandal in Bohemia, she’s mentioned in multiple other Holmes stories. However, it is important to point out that Watson says, "It was not that he felt any emotion akin to love for Irene Adler." It was the thrill of being beaten by an adversary, especially a woman, that made Holmes fascinated with her. The scriptwriter obviously felt this wasn’t exciting enough, hence the apparent on-screen shenanigans in Ritchie’s version.

Either way, I can’t wait to see it and it’ll be an interesting addition to the (long) list of movies about Sherlock Holmes
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« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2009, 12:55:10 PM »

Never read the books so don't care much about whether the movies are canon or not. Trailer looks trite though.
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« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2009, 04:07:33 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2009, 09:03:04 AM »

Excellent post Ellis and personally I'm pretty keen to see what Ritchie can do with a decent budget and its about time Holmes had a good stab at the big screen.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2009, 12:25:59 PM »

Yeah I am siked for this flick..I enjoy Guy Ritchie's films!  Hey isnt Will Ferrel, Sasha Boren Cohen and Apatow working on a Sherlock Holmes film as well..??
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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2009, 04:03:43 PM »

They were but that seems to have vanished.
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2009, 05:59:38 PM »

Yeah I would of liked to see that!!! So Sheridan what is your opinion on Apatow's films?
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2009, 03:34:51 AM »

Well he's only actually directed two films. I've not seen either. He concentrates on heavily female subject matter and that doesn't interest me. I don't want to spend my spare time watching people falling in love, I'd rather see a spaceship blow up. It's like a couples dinner party with good jokes, yeah it's funny sometimes, but I'm still stuck at a fucking dinner party.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2009, 05:10:50 AM »

Hahaha mate you know that I'm going to cut and paste that entire reply into a script of mine  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2009, 10:17:06 PM »

Awesome idea twistedmango!

Now Sheridan...techincally Apatow has only made wrote/directed/produced 2 films Knocked Up, 40yr Old Virgin, and is upcoming one Funny People. But he has co-wrote and produced many!!!!! Mainly produced. All of his films have the same vibe to it, from his 90s flicks to his 2000 flicks, his 2000 flicks have alot of the same actors in the which pretty much shows everyone that it an Apatow flick..... check ou this link for an earlier post of mine, then get back at me....

http://www.movie-moron.com/forum/index.php?topic=1125.msg3817#msg3817
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2009, 04:42:28 AM »

I'm not exactly jumping at the new film, but it's refreshing to see a different kind of Sherlock Holmes. Sherlock Holmes is the single most used character in film history, did you know? 200 or so film appearances. And so they have to do it differently. Besides, its no worse than the bizarre shit that was the Young Sherlock Holmes.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2009, 06:34:26 PM »

200 films?Huh Thanks for the intresting news MarcusAurelius!
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