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« on: July 20, 2010, 02:11:33 PM » |
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I posted this yesterday but it disappeared ... MAAAAAAAASSSSSOOOOOONNNNNN!!!!!! Director: Christopher Nolan
Starring: Leonardo DiCaprio, Joseph Gordon-Levitt, Ellen Page, Tom Hardy, Ken Watanabe, Marion Cotillard, Lukas HaasRotten Tomatoes: 85%Our Rating: A- |
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 03:04:34 PM » |
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About the 'we never get to see the kids' thing. I was grateful for that. I love Christopher Nolan, but every director has a weakness, and Nolan's is kids. Chris Nolan cannot direct kids. At all.
Still liked the movie a hell of a lot more than you though, which I'm surprised by. Wanted to slap the guy that hated it. He's seen an action scene like that before? Be serious.
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dalmatianjaws
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 03:13:42 PM » |
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He said he's seen all the action scenes before, except for the one in the hotel. Which he's right about. The rest of the action is very well directed, to be sure, but conceptually it's all run of the mill save for the anti gravity stuff.
Through the entire snow fortress scenes I kept thinking of True Lies, and all the city-on-foot chases scenes reminded me of Bourne, although I kept thinking how it was better than Bourne. That doesn't make it poorly made, it just makes it unoriginal.
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 03:16:10 PM » |
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As far as I'm concerned, you can't separate the anti-grav stuff from the rest. It's four action scenes rolled into one. That's the most awesome thing about it.
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dalmatianjaws
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 03:19:43 PM » |
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And don't get me wrong, large portions of this movie are the definition of genius. But there are other sections that are FAR below his other work, and actually are at a level of mediocrity normally reserved for J. J. Abram's television shows. It's uneven.
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dalmatianjaws
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 03:20:26 PM » |
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As far as I'm concerned, you can't separate the anti-grav stuff from the rest. It's four action scenes rolled into one. That's the most awesome thing about it.
All well and good, but really has nothing to do with the point he was making. |
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 03:25:25 PM » |
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I disagree. But it's a personal thing, obviously. It's the narrative structure of the action sequences that made them excel for me. The hotel one stood out, they were all good, but it's the way they were put together that made them stellar. It was a chain reaction of kicks with each leading directly into the other. They were intrinsically laced together. The tension in them was entirely based on that.
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dalmatianjaws
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 03:35:25 PM » |
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Undoubtedly, that would be one of the many aspects to fall into the genius category. But it would have been far less genius had they not done the anti gravity stuff on one level, which means the individual components DO matter, not just the thing as a whole.
Also, since the gravity of one dream effects the next, why didn't the person sleeping in the hotel dream create anti-gravity in the snow world? Hmmmm ... did they explain that?
Also, can we just stop the bickering and warring and bitter, BITTER, animosity for a moment to just say one little thing ...
Tom. Fucking. Hardy.
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 03:39:06 PM » |
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Tom Hardy is the shiz. No way Nolan won't work with him again, which is awesome, because he'll get to do more with him in future, like he did with Murphy and Watanabe here.
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twaddington
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 04:09:19 PM » |
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Yeah Tom Hardy really stood out. Joseph Gordon levitt is one of my favourite actors but I didn't really like him in this. I think it was more down to the writing than his acting though.
One major problem with it was that you never felt that the characters were in danger. That's like a fundamental thing for action/ thriller films, you have to fear for the characters safety. Nolan obviously realised that because he attempted to make us fear for them with that limbo thing, but that never felt like a real enough danger and it proved not to be.
That bit in the corridor was brilliant but because of the way the film was structured, it wasn't dwelt on for long enough, it was over in a flash. I actually found myself losing concentration slightly during that extended montage which made up the greater part of the film, I found it too much, there just wasn't time to appreciate the brilliant moments. The whole section on the mountain was pointless and was basically Nolan just doing his James Bond bit.
Something that really surprised me was that I actually thought it lacked imagination to a certain extent. Considering this was about dreams, the scope for experimentation was so great. For me, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind and Waking Life said alot more about dreams and the sub-conscious than this film did.
Despite the fact that i've got a lot of criticisms' I still think it should be applauded. I loved the time difference between the different layers of dream, the falling van was genius. The fact that it is making us think and discuss it as much as this is testament to its quality as well, I'm just not jumping on the bandwagon that magazines like Empire have started, that believes Nolan is the new Stanley Kubrick. As far as i'm concerned, Kubrick is the greatest director of all time, even above Hitchcock (although I do sometimes change my mind about that). Nolan is really good, definitely one of, if not the best working in Hollywood at the moment but there are a LOT of directors working at the moment that I rate higher.
I'm going to watch it again though.
Also i've got one thing to say about the last shot. Blade Runner!
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 04:26:22 PM » |
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I need to see it again too.
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T.ROSS
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 04:34:14 PM » |
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Love the vid, there should be more like this more often. Are the people discussing the movie with you, movie goers? Or 2a.m. critics on the site?
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twaddington
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 04:35:09 PM » |
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I definitely think i'll like it more on second viewing.
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T.ROSS
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2010, 04:35:51 PM » |
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I need to see it again too.
If I see it again, I'll probably enjoy it more... |
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2010, 06:42:48 PM » |
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I think the The Movie Preview Critic's moustache and monocle blew off.
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 04:43:36 PM » |
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dnwilliams
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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2010, 07:00:06 PM » |
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