Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides

[dalmatianjaws]

What. A. Horrible. Trailer.



The beginning is so awkward, the actual trailer SO mundane. Penelope Cruz and Ian McShane SO underused.

Yawn yawn yawn.

Let's hope the final line of dialog is prophetic.

[Sheridan Passell]

The beginning was shown at Comic-Con, they seemingly decided to keep it (re-film it/polish it). Interesting just how much the trailer rests on one character. To be fair, I thought there were some good jokes in there and I didn't hate it. For me, the change of director might just nudge it into more bearable territory.

[twaddington]

The first film is good fun but the sequels are both dire. For some reason I actually quite like the look of this, it looks like it might have recaptured the spirit of the first one. I mean come on; mermaids, zombies AND Blackbeard!

[dnwilliams]

Trailer wasn't great, but it did show me that everything is in place for me to enjoy the movie. The change of director didn't worry me before seeing this, but now I feel like I'll miss Verbinski, his action and comedy were great, and I'm surprised that the cinematography looks noticeably different. This'd have to suck pretty hard for me not to like it seeing as how I don't have the grievances with the sequels you guys do.

They didn't showcase the new characters that much, but I'm a little disappointed by how vanilla Blackbeard appears to be after the awesome of Davy Jones and Barbossa. I do like that Penelope Cruz seems to be playing her Vicky Christina Barcelona character but in a pirate outfit. And I could stand to see a lot more of that mermaid. I'm glad Will & Elizabeth are absent (because their story is over, not because I disliked the characters or actors as some did) and I really hope they can fill the void with this new young couple taking a more prominent role than the trailer would have us believe.

Gonna miss Pintel & Righetti too, I'm really hoping Stephen Graham is the new version of them...

[dalmatianjaws]

But they've already done zombies. Twice.

All secondary characters are SO boring, all the jokes are obvious.  I'm sure it will be pretty, but Jack Sparrow is NOT a main character. At this point it's fan-pandering instead of storytelling. Also, they're already planning back to back sequels to this installment, cause, you know, that worked so well the first time.

[dnwilliams]

Dude, how many Romero zombie movies are there? The franchise is pirates vs living dead pirates. Doesn't matter if they're ghosts, cursed men or slaves to Davy Jones. It's the whole schtick, don't be obtuse.

Again, don't think we've seen enough of the secondary characters to judge them yet.

The macguffin/action-centric trailer for the original film for comparison:

[dalmatianjaws]

Yes, but how many Romero movies are good? Two. Also, those are ZOMBIE movies. Not having zombies in them so as not to repeat himself would be the same as making a pirates movies without pirates. This is not a franchise about pirates vs. zombie pirates, it's a lazy franchise that didn't realize it was repeating itself and didn't care cause audience were dumb enough to give money for garbage.

The original is a good trailer because it sets up character dynamics and hints at a cohesive plot. All the new one says is "um ... fountain of youth? Yes no? Anyone want to see this shit? Look! Explosions!"

[dnwilliams]

This is not a franchise about pirates vs. zombie pirates

dohohohohohohoho

[dalmatianjaws]

“I don't think we gave five minutes to thinking about what might go beyond Curse of the Black Pearl because the intent at that time was to get that movie done and have it be as good as it could be.” - Terry Rossio

“We didn’t intend to have sequels.” - Ted Elliot

“Writer Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio  ... had to retroactively turn The Curse of the Black Pearl into the first of a trilogy ... and initially considered the Fountain of Youth as the plot device. They settled on introducing Davy Jones, the Flying Dutchman and the Kraken.” - Wiki with citations


As a point of interest, they went Die Hard with the fourth film and based it on a novel with no connections to their storyverse.

[dnwilliams]

Back up - you're supporting your assertion that this is 'not a franchise about pirates vs zombie pirates' with quotations that shed light on the fact that it wasn't initially conceived as a franchise? Okay... It is a franchise now, and regardless of how much forethought went into it, it's one about pirates and the supernatural. And, within reason, all good franchises repeat themselves. Name one that doesn't. You can't. Feel free to dislike the movies bro, but enough with the spurious criticisms.

[Sheridan Passell]

Halloween 3. Definitely no repeat. This should follow some old guy at a motel with a robot girlfriend.

[dnwilliams]

Having not seen Halloween 3 I'll assume it's the (comically bad?) exception that proves the rule.

[Sheridan Passell]

It's a masterpiece. I think it won every academy award that year.