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Author Topic: Freddy vs. Jason vs. Michael: Round One  (Read 6345 times)
dalmatianjaws
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« on: July 09, 2008, 07:45:42 PM »

I hadn't seen the originals since I was a kid and I've never bothered with the sequels, so it was time to hit up Blockbuster and finally figure out who is the reigning king of horror, round by round.



Round #1
Friday the 13th - A Nightmare on Elm Street - Halloween



The Loser: Friday the 13th


Ok, I know that in round one we don't even really deal with Jason - and I have to admit, his one appearance in the original film is very scary ... hell, it was the only time I even CARED out of the whole 90 minutes - but still, ANY villain that sends his mom to do his dirty work is a complete tool. This film is fodder for MST3K for sure, and even though I really loved it, thought it was a total silly blast, it has to be the least scary movie ever made. The image of Mrs. Voorhees struggled to walk upright in ankle-deep sand still makes me smile. This franchise is ten films long (ten and a half if you count Freddy vs. Jason) and that stands for something. But I better see a hockey mask soon or there's going to be an early disqualification.

Scariest Moment: Jason's cameo.
Worst Moment: The strip Monopoly game gets interrupted.
Unintentionally Funny Moment: "You're all doomed! Dooooooooomed!"


The Runner Up: Halloween



Now, I have to give props to Michael for being the slasher entrepreneur. He was the first with a mask, the first to be supernatural, the first to leer at half-naked girls.  But still - does he have to wait SO LONG to make a kill? He never even does anything scary until halfway through the movie! Loomis talks him up like he's Satan, but I had to take his word for it until FINALLY he plugged that kid like the crowning jewel in a moth collection. Jamie Lee Curtis's performance carries this film through the first half, and when it finally gets going Michael really seems like a badass ... I just wish the kids he killed didn't die with bug-eyed cheesiness. But then, in the end, he's stopped TWICE but a high school girl armed with a sowing needle and a clothes hangar. And while the symbolism isn't lost on me, I still wish my villain could find the strength to swiftly kick in a breakaway closet door.

Scariest Moment: After he pins the boy to the wall and stares at him, cocking his head from side to side.
Worst Moment: Showing his face.
Unintentionally Funny Moment: Donald Pleasance's strangely derogatory accent when he yells, "get off ma damn porch!"


The Winner: A Nightmare on Elm Street


Easily the most sadistic and creepy of the first round. He doesn't have the swiftness of Mrs. Voorhees or the brute strength of Michael Myers, but damn if he isn't a slinking, devious, gollum-esque pedo-monster. I had forgotten how quickly this film sets up his character (making the glove) and delves into the twisted dream motif (stretchy arms anyone?). Despite some clunky dialog and a few weak performances, this film holds up the best today, and Freddy honestly scared the CRAP out of me.

Scariest Moment:
Tina's ceiling death scene.
Worst Moment: the Home Alone sequence.
Unintentionally Funny Moment: The slapstick sledge hammer in the stomach gag.


Summary: While all films were fun, only Nightmare was consistently scary - but Jason has the most potential for a last minute win.


Coming Soon: Round #2
Friday the 13th Part 2 - A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge - Halloween II
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2008, 09:47:13 PM »

I've always found Halloween scary as hell.  It still manages to scare me.  So that's easily my favorite of the three.  Nightmare is unique and yeah, easily the most sadistic, but I just don't find it scary or tense to watch (that is, after the Tina sequence).  And Friday the 13th, man, that's a comedy.  Need proof?  Kevin Bacon speedo/final showdown on the beach.

I kind of feel bad for you watching the sequels.  All are disappointments.

On a side note, just bought myself Halloween.  I'm going on a Carpenter splurge and got it along with Escape From New York.  Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get my hands on The Thing.
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« Reply #2 on: July 10, 2008, 01:30:33 AM »

Round 2 is going to be very close. Round 3 is an easy win for Nightmare. Round 4 will have to be Friday 13th because of Crispen Glover's dancing and the fat girl killed (ironically) for going healthy and eating a banana.
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« Reply #3 on: July 10, 2008, 04:04:37 PM »

Oh i'm liking this dalmatianjaws, bring it on in all its razor-fingered mask wearing loonacy
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« Reply #4 on: July 10, 2008, 06:18:33 PM »

The worst moment of Nightmare 1 is when she goes Home Alone on him.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 05:38:14 PM »

Yeah, I'd have to concur.

Tyler, what does "ling" mean? Is that a threat  Wink

I've watched Friday 2, and have halloween and nightmare 2 on the way ... this is going to be brutal. I'm breaking up the horror with doses of Six Feet Under ... it's an odd experience.

I have the next 25 movies lined up for the year, and I'm really glad I didn't include Hellraiser in this, which I almost did.
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 06:47:19 PM »

You could cap off your misery by throwing in The Howling sequels. Howling 2 is a nightmare of meaningless manure, with Christopher Lee poking out.

Think this trailer is directionless? Wait til you see the movie -



Over the end credits there's a montage of naked boobs.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2008, 02:13:58 AM »

The Howling 2 trailer was priceless!!  God that movie looked horrible!

Now on topic, I am going to have to go with....

loser Friday The 13th


Not because it was a bad film, I really liked the film a whole lot!!  Victor Miller and Sean S. Cunnigham made a classic, it was written pretty good and produced well for an idependant film at the time of its release(1980)!

Runner up Nightmare On Elm Street


It was defintley a toss up between Wes Craven or John Carpetner.  I really liked this movie alot too, It was thought out well, very original, and I like this one the best out the series because its the one where you see freddy the least, and seems alot more creepier in this one!

Winner Halloween!


This one wins because i really like the the script in this film, especialy Dr. Sam Loomis's role, he talks of Michael as if he was a demon or something, it was brilliantly written!  I also love old school John Carpetner's films, Especialy the ones where he does the score, his music really makes movies extra creepy.  Micheal is so cold blooded, he is on Mission and he wont stop until it is completed.


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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2008, 04:59:41 AM »

I've never seen that poster for Nightmare On Elm St before. Weird.
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2008, 04:20:49 AM »

Yeah I me niether, I was suprised and happy when i saw it!  Had to post it!
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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2008, 07:38:06 AM »

I can't quite read the writing on the poster, but it looks like it's French, German, or something similar.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 03:55:20 PM »

Yeah I dint even notice that, Im sure you already know but its not uncommon for production companies to release different posters for different countries
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« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2008, 10:30:27 PM »

Friday The 13th deaths




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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2009, 11:32:58 AM »

Part 2 is here - http://www.movie-moron.com/?p=3835
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« Reply #14 on: June 11, 2009, 06:46:12 PM »

Are the other ones still on the forum?
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« Reply #15 on: June 12, 2009, 08:47:43 AM »

Yes, but only part one is stickied because all 8/9 parts took up too much space. They're all in order on the front page, just follow the link.
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